susanwinters
Sep 27 2006, 05:29 PM
Poor Ellen...dumped by the evil troll Ronald Perlman. Now she's getting rid of every piece of bling he gave her during the five-year marriage. Auction is across the street at Christie's on October 10. Should net the spurned Ms. Ellen several million. She's back to living the single life in the Village...picking up the drycleaning, groceries, unmolested by bodyguards and thankfully free of endless, yawning nights with Ron.
Oh, did I mention the bling? Most of it is uninteresting to me, but (if I were not going to the Barneys Beauty Event), I would maybe consider the snake bracelet and the art deco bag:http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/Search/...bjectID=4785946http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/Search/...bjectID=4786007Here's the list, what's your pleasure?http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/Search/...p;intObjectID=0
rasputin
Sep 27 2006, 05:50 PM
Lovely Art Deco pieces. How about that emerald sautoir?
FiveoaksBouquet
Sep 27 2006, 05:53 PM
As a believer in jewelry vibes, I don't think I would want to wear any of these pieces, gorgeous as they are. (Money has nothing to do with this at all, of course.)
Tommaso
Sep 27 2006, 06:05 PM
Suz, I agree that the serpent bracelet is the most compelling piece in the collection but I would probably choose this piece. As an aside, how does a woman go from Gabriel Byrne to Ronald Perlman? I mean, I know why, but how?
susanwinters
Sep 27 2006, 06:27 PM
You know, T, I honestly think (and others may hoot) that Ellen really did love the troll and did endeavor to be a good wife. Then it all began to unravel. Read her exclusive interview with Cindy, that may shed some light:http://www.nypost.com/seven/09252006/comme...cindy_adams.htm
susanwinters
Sep 27 2006, 06:39 PM
I just reread the interview again and my favorite part is:
"Look, I'm now single. I live in the Village. Everyone around me is in the business of leading his or her own life. I'll never live that dress-up Cinderella existence again. Where will I wear that stuff? What would I do with it? I'd only have to pay to keep it in a safe. Today, I go to the supermarket by myself. I shop at Citarella. Alone. No security guards. I talk to my kids as I like. Make what I want for dinner. Handle my own luggage. Carry my own clothes home from the cleaner on my own arm like a real person. And you know what? After seven years of not doing that, it feels f- - -ing great."
Yay, Ellen!!!!!
besotted
Sep 27 2006, 07:08 PM
I'm with Five-O on the vibe/karma thing; if I weren't I'd love this one:

Ellen B's a great gal.
GalileosDaughter
Sep 27 2006, 07:50 PM
I'll take the JAR bracelets....
Morticia Addams
Sep 27 2006, 08:44 PM
Ellen barkin's taste in jewelry is similar to mine. I noticed she bought an excellent necklace from the auction of Doris Duke's estate, for instance. Looking at her vast collection of bling it's clear she married Perlman (ugly as a toad) for his money. Personally I'd rather have Gabriel Byrne and a lot less bling. If she is happily parting with all this jewelry, I wonder what if any she's keeping. Hmmm?
frangipani
Sep 27 2006, 09:01 PM
I'm not a jewelry person but, if you twisted my arm, I'd take the Cartier Tank Francaise, the JAR amethyst and emerald ring and the JAR gold and emerald ring.
I don't believe the jewelry is cursed - as long as Ron Perlman doesn't come with it.
I hope she does well on the sale.
winemaven
Sep 27 2006, 10:26 PM
I can't bring myself to look at page 2. There were only about 3 things I did NOT want on page 1. OY to have those watches, rings and pins. That barrette is so adorable.
I MUST walk away......maybe it's better I have no cash; I could hurt myself.
rasputin
Sep 27 2006, 11:27 PM
QUOTE (Tommaso @ Sep 27 2006, 06:05 PM)

As an aside, how does a woman go from Gabriel Byrne to Ronald Perlman? I mean, I know why, but how?
Tommaso, here is your answer:
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helg
Sep 28 2006, 01:28 AM
She has my sympathy. Must be both a relief and a pain to be alone again.
I do like her taste (the art deco pieces are great, esepcially those you chose Susan)
Great collection and has a point if she can't actually wear them and they just stand for $$$.
I also like these:
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/Search/...bjectID=4785967and love these:
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/Search/...bjectID=4786002She did have many similar pieces, didn't she? I guess her circles have a specific "style" they were going for?
This is very unique though:
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/Search/...bjectID=4786008As an aside if I were her I'd keep the Bulgari Bulgari chronograph in stainless steel; I mean: it's a classic and can be worn with anything! (and it starts at much less than actual retail price, trust me I know)
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/Search/...bjectID=4785933As to
why she left Gabriel Burn (fine specimen that he undoubtedly is and my admiration notwithstanding).
He had a drinking problem........
And not
this one:
Click to view attachmentAfter a certain age, you might as well have the most of it, plus the margin of choice limits itself.
I don't see her as a gold-monger....
helg
Sep 28 2006, 01:53 AM
Byrne.......duh......
rasputin
Sep 28 2006, 02:00 AM
QUOTE (helg @ Sep 28 2006, 01:28 AM)

As to why she left Gabriel Burn (fine specimen that he undoubtedly is and my admiration notwithstanding).
He had a drinking problem........
What?? An
Irishman with a drinking problem? Never!!
((-:
Donna255
Sep 28 2006, 02:19 AM
I'll have the Cartier leather strap Tank watch. Thank You.
Leave Gabriel alone,he is fine actor!!!
helg
Sep 28 2006, 02:28 AM
QUOTE (rasputin @ Sep 28 2006, 02:00 AM)

What?? An Irishman with a drinking problem? Never!!
((-:
LOL
QUOTE (Donna255 @ Sep 28 2006, 02:19 AM)

Leave Gabriel alone,he is fine actor!!!
One of the best! (love him to bits). I thought I made that clear.
I just wanted to step in defending mrs.Barkin from gold-mongering hints.
Armanis
Sep 28 2006, 08:47 AM
Click to view attachmentI'm partial to hairpins . . . otherwise, jewelry on women is not my thing. Overall, I still prefer gold. One or two good pieces, then stop! On men, a watch and cufflinks. For Armanis, that's plenty.
As for Ms. Barkin's lamentations . . . I'm soooooo happy that she'll have a 'normal' life, now. Devoid of the odious hardships she's had to endure, while married to Mr. P. Give me a break . . . this woman loved Ronald Perlman about as much as Kimberly Guilfoyle loves Gavin Newsom and Eric Villency. Again, I wish EB would tell the truth: 'I married this jerk for his money. Surprise.'
sharilstuff
Sep 28 2006, 09:11 AM
First, may I say...YOU GO ELLEN, GIRL!! An unhappy marriage is just a hell on earth, but that transition back into single gal can be a rocky one. People are often ungracious and pitying when you are in this state, oddly.
In any case,... I'm not much into bling, but the Bvlgari and Hermes watches for me, please!
Armanis
Sep 28 2006, 11:10 AM
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/Search/...bjectID=4785987Tommaso, I too find that piece to be quite striking. I'd rather that it had no diamonds at the side, however.
Here's another one, that always caught my eye. Huge stones can be very effective . . . but they must be worn with simple clothes, and preferably without any other distractions, so far as jewelry is concerned.
sgupta4
Sep 28 2006, 11:23 AM
Wow, that is some jewelry collection she is unloading! Some of those pieces are gorgeous and I would love that Art Deco handbag previously owned by the Duchess of Windsor. I noticed she had lots of contemporary pieces by this JAR firm.
I read the interview by Cindy Adams. She didn't come across as a gold-digger. She doesn't say how long their courtship was but he wouldn't the first guy who showed one face during the courtship and then after marriage, the real personality came out.
Armanis
Sep 28 2006, 01:04 PM
QUOTE (sgupta4 @ Sep 28 2006, 11:23 AM)

Wow, that is some jewelry collection she is unloading! Some of those pieces are gorgeous and I would love that Art Deco handbag previously owned by the Duchess of Windsor. I noticed she had lots of contemporary pieces by this JAR firm.
I read the interview by Cindy Adams. She didn't come across as a gold-digger. She doesn't say how long their courtship was but he wouldn't the first guy who showed one face during the courtship and then after marriage, the real personality came out.
That's true, Shalini. And, Vice Versa. Personally, I have no trouble whatsoever, with women marrying men for money. I think that's a damned good reason, to get married. A good reason to get divorced, too. Mr. P. has been 'identified' on this thread as something of a troll . . . why should Barkin have cared about him, in the first place? Poor people people get married, break up, and fight over pots and pans. Obviously this woman did lots of shopping, while married to her troll of a husband. Good for her.
sharilstuff
Sep 28 2006, 01:14 PM
Bravo, Armanis! I'm with you. There is nothing wrong in my mind with marrying for money when the other party is just as savvy as to the arrangement...and people with that kind of wealth are rarely not savvy, yes?
Tommaso
Sep 28 2006, 01:56 PM
QUOTE (sharilstuff @ Sep 28 2006, 01:14 PM)

people with that kind of wealth are rarely not savvy, yes?
Yes shar, there are usually pre-nups involved (Ellen's was reportedly $20million) but then there's Paul McCartney.
Armanis
Sep 28 2006, 05:36 PM
What's wrong, with 20 million? Good for her. Like I said . . . poor people break up just as often as rich people do. If you can get something, for you trouble, why, not? And that goes for men, too . . . after Marylou Whitney 'went through' her last husband, she married a gent 30 years her junior. Good for him! re. Paul McCartney, if he didn't know any better . . . that's his tough luck. Why didn't his daughter, sit her father down, and tell him the facts of life? I sure would have.
Tommaso
Sep 28 2006, 05:56 PM
Norman Lear had a great quote after divorcing his wife Frances in the mid 1980's. He was asked how it felt to write a check for $100 million(at the time, the largest settlement in California history). Lear smiled and said, "that was money well spent".
Armanis
Sep 28 2006, 06:01 PM
Click to view attachmentHow romantic, Tommaso . . . makes me wish I'd been married, myself.
Demetrue
Sep 28 2006, 07:57 PM
Every woman NEEDS 3 JAR diamond "thread" rings, right?
helg
Sep 29 2006, 01:05 AM
QUOTE (Demetrue @ Sep 28 2006, 07:57 PM)

Every woman NEEDS 3 JAR diamond "thread" rings, right?
That made an impression on me too! Why the threesome? (LOL)
Question:
I gather mr.McCartney didn't sign a pre-nup and now his ex is asking earth and sky of him? (I am not very up to date with gossip, excuse me. )
If he didn't, well......its kinda romantic....stupid too, but romantic nevertheless...(I guess)
Armanis
Sep 29 2006, 07:33 AM
Hi helg . . . Re. Paul McCartney, I'll agree that he was stupid. Any man his age who understands that little about life, cannot be anything else. I think too, that artistic 'geniuses,' sometimes suffer from a lack of perspective about life in general. Poor thing may actually have believed that this woman cared about him.
helg
Sep 29 2006, 08:11 AM
QUOTE (Armanis @ Sep 29 2006, 07:33 AM)

. Poor thing may actually have believed that this woman cared about him.
Yeah...that's the vibe I got as well. And after his first wife dying from cancer too! He was too easy a victim, perhaps.....Pity. It must feel horrible to get so disillusioned in a partner.
scentual
Sep 29 2006, 08:23 AM
QUOTE (FiveoaksBouquet @ Sep 27 2006, 06:53 PM)

As a believer in jewelry vibes, I don't think I would want to wear any of these pieces, gorgeous as they are. (Money has nothing to do with this at all, of course.)
I agree. To buy jewelry from a person who had a bad marriage will bring bad karma to your life. Beautiful they may be, but no way. I have enough problems already, why add more.
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