This morning on QVC, Joan Rivers was pushing her latest Russian-inspired Christmas egg tree ornaments.

She was talking about how they will "fill in the gaps" perfectly on your tree.

Then, she then she went into some talk about how, "You don't want it to look like some gay came in and decorated your tree!"

Yet another uncomfortable moment for the poor QVC host. You could just tell!

I found it HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!

Did anyone catch this?

Guess I better put an end to my annual nine-hour tree decorating blitzes... certainly don't want to become the next "gay tree decorator!"

hahahaha!

Gosh, she's a riot!!!!

Joan is hilarious in a cringe-inducing way, not actually funny IMO. A tree with Russian eggs doesn't sound very appealing either.

I came "." that close to actually buying the set of four of them. They were actually quite nice. According to QVC, they had 7,000 sets at the start, and were down to 700 at the end of the show.

An entire tree full of them, no, but a few, certainly.

Joan can be "cringe-innducing," as you say, but like any comedian, she attracts a certain demographic, I suppose.

Well I wish I had a gay tree decorator!

Mmmm hmmm! <grin>

;)

Click to view attachmentNot sure I 'get it,' but once I did fall on the floor laughing, when while hawking her jewelry collection, JR asked for a tight shot of a pair of earrings. She said 'I want you to know that when J. Edgar Hoover was 'Mary,' these were her favorite pair of earrings, ever!' That, sent me over the edge. When I did my tours of our exhibition of YSL, I used to stand before a gray herringbone suit, cinched to a twenty inch wasit, and say the same thing: 'this was J. Edgar Hoover's favorite suit, for Mary . . . ' For the rest of the tour, some women would be chewing on their lips, while others never understood what I was talking about. I liked that.

Her "mean" shtick is as old and tired as she is herself. If I were attracted to that type of humor Kathy Griffin would be my choice.

Click to view attachmentTommaso . . . what do you mean, OLD??

Next time you're at Saks, etc. check out the "guys" doing the trees. Beyond hilarious!

Okay, I will . . . btw: see Woody Allen's INTERIORS. In that movie, Geraldine Page took THREE DAYS, to decorate the Xmas tree.

Joan is getting that Jocelyn Wildenstein look.

As Joan said last year on television, "My face is tighter than the security of the U.S. borders."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ANYONE should be able to find humor in that one!

I guess it's cool that she can laugh at herself. Still not a fan but I like people who don't take themselves too seriously. Doesn't she also have a perfume? I've actually heard good things but have not smelled it.

You really think she takes herself in a serious manner? How so?



Yes, she does. Very nice stuff, in fact. She's got "Now & Forever," and "Pink Flowers."

Both are very nice. While I like both very much on a woman, if I had to just associate with one, I'd pick Now & Forever.

No, I was saying that I like that she can laugh at herself, and that even though I'm not a fan of hers I like when people (like her) don't take themselves too seriously. Sorry! I didn't phrase that too well.

:-)

All of my gay POL friends...you are all cordially invited to my house this holiday season to decorate my tree. If you want to slap some of Joan's eggs up there too, feel free.

Some of her jewelry is quite pretty, imho.

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I LIKE Joan. Wish our security was as tight! How come she has a Christmas Tree???? I have lots of Jewish friends.....but none have a tree. Of course they attend the parties etc.

I've had a number of Jewish friends, who include Xmas trees as part of their holiday festivities . . . their families enjoy it.

My guy (Phil) is Jewish. He calls it a Hannukah Bush. :)

I think there's more of a cultural difference in tree decoration than a sexuality one. Us Brit 'mos have been doing the understated thing for quite a few years - the tree's the star, not its sparkle, after all.

Not that I can speak for all the dear gay boys in Britain. for all I know, they might have white trees and taffeta and decorate themselves with snow spray moustaches.

What amazes me instead is this:

Christmas-tree decoration talk (and sales) before even October has come for good?????????!!!!!!!!!!?????????

What is this world coming to?

Only Joan could get away with a remark like that.

Helg, you are so right! That's in part why I insist, on doing Halloween!

Precisely! Certainly puts a new twist to her "Joan Rivers Classics" collection.

I laughed so hard, I damn near peed.

HAHAHA!!!!

Mary, you have no idea how much that made me laugh inside.

When growing up, my brother and I would go to church on Sunday with my parents. It was an 8:00 Mass. Afterward, there was a social in the church hall.

Long story short, our family became really good/close friends with this older couple who would sit either in front or behind us each week in church. We would go downstairs to the church hall for the social afterward and they'd sit with us.

They were BEYOND funny. Well, one day, he says to my brother and I, "Got your Hannukah bush up yet?"

Not only did my brother and I find that hilarious, but so did my parents.

Both of them have since passed, but the fond, fond memories of the two of them will be with us forever. They were REALLY great friends/people, and actually, that's part of the reason why my brother and I liked going to church on Sunday.

I don't think there's been a Christmas where our family hasn't referenced the phrase, "Hannukah bush."

Ditto what rasputun said! I'm rather surprised, actually, that some gay folks aren't up in arms. I do agree that they might be, had it not been someone who is on her way to becoming a gay icon, if she's not there already. I guess context accounts for alot, you know. Gay folks seem to know that Joan would never be being diminuitive with that remark.

that's great!

I loved Joan's first (and most important) autobiography, ENTER TALKING, (circa 1984?). In it, she describes her very rough climb to the top in the cultural maelstrom that was NYC in the 1960's. She writes that, even in her "down-est" days and lousiest, hole-in-the-wall nightclub appearances, there was always a contingent of gay men in the audience to egg her on and bolster her up. She grew up in a financially struggling Jewish family and long perceived herself as Joan Molinsky, a chubby, unlovable ugly duckling; in the City in the mid-1960's, she bonded with gay males who also knew firsthand what it felt like to be "different".... and she's been loyal to her gay fan base since then. Now she is a hit with younger gay males who were born in the 1980's, after she was already a megastar. As with Cher, being a voicebox for those who feel like "outsiders" is Joan's particular dharma in life... Vive la Joan!! Vive la Cher!!

rasputin . . . Joan Crawford and Bette Davis, also inspired relentless, homosexual enthusiasm. Toward the end of Joan Crawford's life . . . after she'd had more than her share of heterosexual men, Miss C. spent much of her time with homosexuals.

Yet, from what I understand, Judy Garland, gay icon extraordinaire, got tired of all the "queers" following her around.... Have you also heard this?

Click to view attachmentNo, but judging from Ms. Garland's marital track record, I'd say she was fortunate to have homosexual friends, of either sex. There were strong rumors too, about Vincente Minnelli's sexuality. Daughter Liza seems to marry gay men, as well.

Jeffery, I want to know how many hours it took for you to decorate that tree? It's like a piece of art! I would have left my tree up all year if it had looked like yours.

It's an all-day process really for the past five or so years that I've had the energy to do it that way.

There's approximately 700 lights, never counted the ornaments and anywhere from 150-200 real candy canes, depending on how many boxes I buy each year.

The trick is "filling in the gaps." I make use of Christmas floral inserts and larger bulky items to accomplish this to give it a FULL look.

Also, with 700 lights you have to start on the inside of the tree where the pole goes into the stand and do at least two sets of lights that are wrapped on the branches on the inside of the tree. This way, when it's lit up, it lights up a great deal from the INSIDE, as well as the out.

Shimmering beaded garlands finish off the look.

Not including the tree assembly, which can be a task in and of itself, it's a good 8 or 9 hour project.

Bwahahahaha!! Isn't weird how some people say it like that? "some gay" "the gays" My friend and I went shopping for a birthday gift for another friend (a guy who usually is with guys but he has a sorta of girl buddy now so I guess he's "straight-curious" as he likes to say). Anyway we got him a Margaret Cho DVD and when we got home her grandmother asked what we got him and we told her and she busted out with, "Ooh! Margaret Cho! The gays love Margaret Cho!". LOL! First of all, how does she even know Margaret Cho, let alone that "the gays" love her? This is a lady that doesn't even watch tv except for telemundo! Nearly died laughing at the randomness.

Smellerbee, the lesson learned here is to never underestimate the intelligence and intuition of a grandmother.

While they may come across as "Radio 4," they know "Radio 1," too.

As for your friend's "girl buddy," as you so call it, there's a term for that as well. <grin>

Every gay guy has a fag hag or two.

And if done right, it can confuse the living hell out of those who just aren't sure what to make of you. <evil grin>

I know! Like they say, when you assume, you make an ###### out of u and me. Or something like that. My old grade school teacher loved that saying. And we totally thought his gal pal was not for real because he's not bi at all (or at least hasn't shown any interest in that ever) but they are really a couple (well not a couple but they do enjoy extra extracuricular activities if you get what I mean). I guess she's the exception to his rule. What's funny is that this was a guy who was very critical of our friends who are bi, like he thought they were either homos playing at heteros or visa versa. Which, ok, some of them were, but still. I burned him a copy of David Bowie's Rebel Rebel, I figured it summed up their relationship for them ("...You like me, and I like it all, We like dancing and we look divine... Hot tramp, I love you so!") Heh heh...

Jeffery, I wasn't going to mention it but since you brought it up......... Joan is beyond reproach in the gay community, for any derogatory comments she might make, because she's a fag hag. She has special dispensation.

I always feel as if I'm going to ber constipated for days when I hear the words 'fag hag'. Am I an uptight pc type to hate that? Almost as pelvic floor clenching for me as gay men who do the 'she' business with each other. Sheesh.

Sorry. As you were.

I'm curious about that term. Is it considered complimentary or not?

I've never cared for that expression either, Leopoldo. It seems derogatory. But, I guess the tone could vary, depending upon context.

Jeffery, that sounds like it was a classic QVC moment. I've always liked the channel for its live content, and once in a while, the merch. Who was the QVC host/hostess along with Joan?

Your tree photo is the best!

Exactly... she has created a very "niche" group of her own, that are VERY loyal.

Although, I'm sure there are certain friends of Dorothy who can't stand her.

Different strokes for different folks.

"My ladies" find it more funny, than anything.

The trick is not to take it in such a serious manner -- odd as it sounding coming from me, as I'm usually the one wearing "tight unders." <grin>

Honestly, I think it's a very complimentary "slang" term, though.

Many of the women who are "fag hags," for a lack of a better term at this point, have become extremely important friends and people in the lives of many gay men.

I've seen a lot of VERY, VERY good things come from these types of relationships between a gay man and woman.

Hell, it was the premise for NBC's "Will & Grace."




Yikes, you got me there! I can't remember who it was!! SORRY!



Thank you, kindly!