Hello,

I am coming back with another mystery for the people collecting perfume bottle.
This one looks like a jewel, a diamond, very small (3,5 cm), with a precious extract inside.
No label, no reference on the crystal. Do you have any idea about the perfume industry who produced it ? Or the period of it ?

http://parfum-brocard.blogspot.com

Link if that's working : A precious extract in a jewel

Thanks for your suggestions.
Best regards,
Bertrand

To me that one looks like a generic crystal perfume bottle and not commercial. However I could not identify it.

Hello,

Well... I was enthousistic by it. Less know with your message. ;-)
Best regards,
Bertrand

I don 't think anyone here would know about the Brocard perfumes. I don 't know about this perfume but this NOT generic, this edition was probably extremely limited commercially. Brocard was a french perfumer who immigrated to Russia before the Soviet Revolution and continued creating perfumes after such as the famous Krasnaya Moskva (Red Moscow), a carnation rose scent.
these perfumes are very rare and usually found at auctions like Hôtel Drouot in Paris.

To be honest we on POL are not really into bottle collecting, it is all about the juice inside for us.

Prince Barry and some others on the old POL where interested in the Red Moscow fragrances which are still available.

it 's true, noone cares about bottles here, we re about the "juice". I hope PB can give us feedbacks on Red Mosco, I m very curious about it. I read the vintage is extremely expensive, I wonder if the actual available version is as good.

I think some are interested in bottles and I am one of them, although bottle collectors are in the minority, or it's a secondary consideration. There is a thread going where volupte found about a hundred-year-old Guerlain bottle for Eau de Cologne Impériale and I found that thread very exciting. By learning about these bottles, we may find out something about the perfume that was in them too. I for one would be very interested in hearing more about the early Roure and Brocard perfumes and the bottles are lovely.

Thanks for your support. Some friends recommend me this forum as you are several to have a real passion for fragrance and also for bottle. :-)

Well I will ot post a new topic for that. But if you are interested by two bottles and another mystery, you can have a look on my last post :

1. an art déco perfume bottle in "pâte de verre" as we are saying in french :
http://parfum-brocard.blogspot.com/2007/10...th-special.html

2. a special perfume bottle from Roure probably before the XXe century :
http://roure-parfum.blogspot.com/2007/10/u...gue-parfum.html

It was a pleasure to share that with you and maybe other people who have a true passion for that.
Best regards,
Bertrand

A few years ago I had the chance to sample a few of the perfumes made by Novaya Zarya. I'm sure that one of them was the Red Moscow. I can't even remember what happened to my samples.

Barry

While I am primarily interested in the juice, I DO like pretty & interesting bottles.

When I read the posts, I remembered I have a bottle of Red Moscow parfum....or as the bottle & box say Moscou Rouge parfum.

I also have one called Siagon.

Both are interesting fragrances. I decided to test the Red Moscow. It IS a rose & carnation fragrance!

When I got this it was about 90%+ full with an interesting red plastic cap that I guess might look like the tops of some of the buildings in Moscow but I thought it was probably a cheap perfume, so I never thought of wearing it. I just dug it out now to test it. What an interesting fragrance!

Saigon is a plain bottle, but also an interesting fragrance.

Very elegant bottles, Bestra. I particularly like the first one. I suppose these have no more residues in them to smell what the perfume was like?

Hello,

The Brocard campany was nationalized after the Russian Revolution. They changed the name from "Brocard" to "Nouvelle Etoile". And they kept some of the perfume produced before the Russian revolution. Even if, I am not sure they were able to find the old formula. The Brocard family probably left the country with all the formulas.

Red moscow was one the old fragrance. I can imagine that they adapted the formula, or they re-created it in order to keep a link with thei old history.

Today I am a little bit impressed by the companies who are trying to use the Brocard :
One in Berlin, a distributor of perfumes who has no relations with Brocard in the past and today but they are using the name and the pictures of the ancestors. :-(
http://www.brocard-berlin.de/brocardFranzo...rocardFRANZ.swf

And "Nouvelle Etoile" in Moscow which is on the old place of the industry and trying to change their name to Brocard, more attractive, with a hight rate of recognition... and they registred the brand Brocard all around the world.

When I know the end of this company. The Brocard tried to re-creat the firm in France after the revolution. In Russia they lost everything (properties, industry, painting collections), and finished without a lot of money, I have really some concerned about their memory, the respect of it, and their potential rights...

But that's another story.
Best regards,
Bertrand

don't know anything about bottles - but - love your website!