PerfumeMe
Oct 4 2008, 01:01 AM
Thirteen years to the DAY since he was acquitted of murder. Lock him up and throw away the key.
Polk
Oct 4 2008, 02:08 AM
QUOTE (PerfumeMe @ Oct 4 2008, 02:01 AM)

Thirteen years to the DAY since he was acquitted of murder. Lock him up and throw away the key.
But this is an unrelated case, he was acquitted of murder, we should respect the legal process that has run its course.
smelka
Oct 4 2008, 02:48 AM
He was found guilty of murder in the civil suite. His acquittal was a miscarriage of justice.
Polk
Oct 4 2008, 03:00 AM
QUOTE (smelka @ Oct 4 2008, 02:48 AM)

He was found guilty of murder in the civil suite. His acquittal was a miscarriage of justice.
He was found guilty of robbery and subsequently found "liable" for the deaths in a 1997 civil suit and was ordered to pay damages.
smelka
Oct 4 2008, 03:20 AM
QUOTE (Polk @ Oct 4 2008, 07:00 PM)

He was found guilty of robbery and subsequently found "liable" for the deaths in a 1997 civil suit and was ordered to pay damages.
Can't see a contradiction here, just happy to see the beast behind bars
" The wheels of justice grind slow, but exceedingly fine"
FiveoaksBouquet
Oct 4 2008, 07:40 AM
QUOTE (Polk @ Oct 4 2008, 03:00 AM)

He was found guilty of robbery and subsequently found "liable" for the deaths in a 1997 civil suit and was ordered to pay damages.
Greetings, Polk, and welcome to POL! Any relation to the former President of the US?
I have a question I'm not sure about: What is the legal difference between "liable" and "guilty?" I never did understand how a person could be found not guilty in one venue and yet held responsible in another. In any case, my own feeling was that OJ did something bad because at some deep level he felt he should be in jail.
CHARDKAY
Oct 4 2008, 08:01 AM
QUOTE (Polk @ Oct 4 2008, 02:08 AM)

But this is an unrelated case, he was acquitted of murder, we should respect the legal process that has run its course.
It may be an unrelated case, but it is KARMA......
lmatchgrl
Oct 4 2008, 09:27 AM
Isn't it sweetly ironic that the current judges name is Glass. I love karma
smelka
Oct 4 2008, 09:39 AM
What is the significance of that name?
lmatchgrl
Oct 4 2008, 09:42 AM
Aside from Nicole, Ron Glass was the other victim of OJ's knife that day.
isabellabird
Oct 4 2008, 09:58 AM
QUOTE (lmatchgrl @ Oct 4 2008, 10:42 AM)

Aside from Nicole, Ron Glass was the other victim of OJ's knife that day.
Ron Glass is an actor. Ron Goldman was the other victim.
lmatchgrl
Oct 4 2008, 10:01 AM
Oops my bad. Sorry
éprise de flacons
Oct 4 2008, 10:27 AM
Much agreed, Chardkay, down to the all caps.
scentual
Oct 4 2008, 01:45 PM
QUOTE (CHARDKAY @ Oct 4 2008, 08:01 AM)

It may be an unrelated case, but it is KARMA......
I agree - what comes around goes around. Ain't karma a witch. Now he will lots of time to sit and ponder who killed his wife. Don't think too hard OJ. You are sharing the cell with the killer.
rasputin
Oct 4 2008, 03:20 PM
There is that curious phenomenon by which "every thief is his own hangman".
I think the psyche strives for a certain kind of homeostasis.
CHARDKAY
Oct 4 2008, 03:38 PM
QUOTE (scentual @ Oct 4 2008, 01:45 PM)

I agree - what comes around goes around. Ain't karma a witch. Now he will lots of time to sit and ponder who killed his wife. Don't think too hard OJ. You are sharing the cell with the killer.
I have lived my life by that principle. I was taught at a very young age that what comes around goes around (usually tenfold). It keeps me honest anyway. My parents were both good examples of this and drilled it into my little head. I have also seen it in action with deserving people getting theirs back. Glad to see that OJ is finally going to get his KARMA.
CHARDKAY
Oct 4 2008, 03:39 PM
QUOTE (rasputin @ Oct 4 2008, 03:20 PM)

There is that curious phenomenon by which "every thief is his own hangman".
I think the psyche strives for a certain kind of homeostasis.
You sure hit the nail on the head there David; you could compare Karma to homeostasis, totally!!
Cathleen56
Oct 4 2008, 06:15 PM
Fiveoaks, here's the difference between "guilty" and "liable" -- guilt is a determination made when someone is accused of committing a crime. Liability means "responsibility" and is a determination that can be made only in a civil lawsuit, i.e., not a criminal prosecution.
In the US, in order to be found guilty of a crime, the jury has to find guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt" -- this is a very tough standard, almost 100% certainty.
By contrast, in order to be found liable in a civil lawsuit -- where no jail time is possible, just money damages -- the jury need find only that a "preponderance of the evidence" proves that the accused person is responsible for whatever he's been accused of. This is a much lower standard than what it takes to find someone guilty of a crime; in terms of numbers, this is roughly equivalent to a 51% certainty, or better.
There are exceptions and nuances to these concepts, but that's it in very broad strokes. And that explains why OJ Simpson was not found guilty of murder, but was judged to be "liable" for the deaths in a lawsuit for money damages brought by the victims' families.
FiveoaksBouquet
Oct 4 2008, 07:32 PM
Thank you, Cathleen! Wonderful explanation!
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