At the grocery store the other day, I saw a magazine cover with Angelina Jolie on it. There was 'track marks' down her upper arm and shoulder blade. I thought it was just some ink from the magazine printer that got messed up. Then I looked at a few other issues, and there were those track marks. THEN, I read somewhere that she got tattooed - something about babies...
Whassup? It looks sooo ugly!! Why would she do this?
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Ok. I just googled AJ and her tattoos. http://www.freetattoodesigns.org/angelina-jolie-tattoos.html
I think it's kind of cool that she expresses herself so intensely. My first thought is that these tattoos mar her incredible beauty. Could these tattoos be her way of thumbing her nose at conventional beauty - saying that she's more than a pretty face and body?
I think it's kind of cool that she expresses herself so intensely. My first thought is that these tattoos mar her incredible beauty. Could these tattoos be her way of thumbing her nose at conventional beauty - saying that she's more than a pretty face and body?
She has a lot of tattoos... I guess she enjoys them. I personally wouldn't get one, but to each his/her own.
That woman could not be ugly if she tried. Tattoos aren't my thing, but so what? It's her thing and she enjoys them.
QUOTE (Isabella @ Oct 14 2008, 04:13 PM) 
Ok. I just googled AJ and her tattoos. http://www.freetattoodesigns.org/angelina-jolie-tattoos.html
I think it's kind of cool that she expresses herself so intensely. My first thought is that these tattoos mar her incredible beauty. Could these tattoos be her way of thumbing her nose at conventional beauty - saying that she's more than a pretty face and body?
I think it's kind of cool that she expresses herself so intensely. My first thought is that these tattoos mar her incredible beauty. Could these tattoos be her way of thumbing her nose at conventional beauty - saying that she's more than a pretty face and body?
I am not a big fan of tattoos, but on her, they look cool. I can't really say that about any other woman. The current ones being utilized by some starlets on the base of their spine are aptly referred to as 'tramp stamps', and in my opinion they are. But, like I say, on her they are cool and not trashy.
Sorry..................I'm not one of her fans.
I could care less whatever she does. She's just not pretty to me.
I could care less whatever she does. She's just not pretty to me.
The lower back tattoo is quite popular among younger women and really, it's a better spot than most. The skin won't stretch or sag much over time and it can easily be hidden for work or other conservative situations. So despite the popularity of the term tramp stamp, I think it's going a little bit far to infer actual trampiness. The girls are young and just following style, such as it is.
Our dear Madame, writing in 1964, attributed a similar trashiness to pierced ears. Now I'm old-fashioned and in fact, don't have pierced ears. But I would hesitate to say that those with pierced ears are trashy or trampy--I'd be damning practically every adult woman, with the exception of myself. The girls with lower back tattoos are part of a similar movement from trashy to respectable, it seems to me.
Our dear Madame, writing in 1964, attributed a similar trashiness to pierced ears. Now I'm old-fashioned and in fact, don't have pierced ears. But I would hesitate to say that those with pierced ears are trashy or trampy--I'd be damning practically every adult woman, with the exception of myself. The girls with lower back tattoos are part of a similar movement from trashy to respectable, it seems to me.
I don't like tattoos much, but I do like that she has used the co-ordinates of her kids' births. I think that is very meaningful, and will never look trashy, although she has probably spawned a million copies by now.
QUOTE (isabellabird @ Oct 14 2008, 07:57 PM)
The lower back tattoo is quite popular among younger women and really, it's a better spot than most. The skin won't stretch or sag much over time and it can easily be hidden for work or other conservative situations. So despite the popularity of the term tramp stamp, I think it's going a little bit far to infer actual trampiness. The girls are young and just following style, such as it is.
Our dear Madame, writing in 1964, attributed a similar trashiness to pierced ears. Now I'm old-fashioned and in fact, don't have pierced ears. But I would hesitate to say that those with pierced ears are trashy or trampy--I'd be damning practically every adult woman, with the exception of myself. The girls with lower back tattoos are part of a similar movement from trashy to respectable, it seems to me.
Our dear Madame, writing in 1964, attributed a similar trashiness to pierced ears. Now I'm old-fashioned and in fact, don't have pierced ears. But I would hesitate to say that those with pierced ears are trashy or trampy--I'd be damning practically every adult woman, with the exception of myself. The girls with lower back tattoos are part of a similar movement from trashy to respectable, it seems to me.
Forgive my dimness (no caffeine yet this AM) but this is the second reference I've seen to "Madame." 'Splain, please?
Wayland Flowers and Madame?
As a person who has developed problems with her skin...I cannot understand the need people have to have themselves marked and branded.
I think the human body is AMAZING -- our skin a work of art, in itself.
I've posted here about how my son had so many problems with his skin and how we spent so many hours in doctor's offices and so much time and money trying to help him...and how one day it just cleared up and it began to glow with good health. It truly glowed, from within, and on the outside.
Then he got two tattoos.
I wept for days when he got them. My stomach still cramps when I see them.
I reckon it's none of my business what others do to their bodies. Nope, not at all.
Doesn't mean I understand why they would want to do it...but I respect that it's their thing...
IMHO, Angelina Jolie is one of the most beautiful creatures I've ever seen. She has that feral feline quality I find so fetching...in Keira Knightley, too.
Still...when I see Jolie's tattoos I am distracted.
I don't believe she's a woman who just doesn't care about her beauty...because I think it's obvious she takes care of herself and does things to keep her looks...and you won't ever see her walking around looking like a wreck, unless she's playing that kind of part.
I don't think tattoos are just "accessories" of this time, though.
I think part of the allure they have for the people who get them is about showing even more facets of their personalities...and I often wonder if that has to do with communications skills we may have lost in the past forty years or so.
I know, I know...my thoughts on tattoos and the currently popular removal of all body hair, by both sexes, are not popular...but my thinking isn't so much collected around trends and what they mean and why generations adopt such trends.
I tend to wonder why we want to change and tamper with our natural beauty so much.
Oh, well...enough of that! LOL
I think the human body is AMAZING -- our skin a work of art, in itself.
I've posted here about how my son had so many problems with his skin and how we spent so many hours in doctor's offices and so much time and money trying to help him...and how one day it just cleared up and it began to glow with good health. It truly glowed, from within, and on the outside.
Then he got two tattoos.
I wept for days when he got them. My stomach still cramps when I see them.
I reckon it's none of my business what others do to their bodies. Nope, not at all.
Doesn't mean I understand why they would want to do it...but I respect that it's their thing...
IMHO, Angelina Jolie is one of the most beautiful creatures I've ever seen. She has that feral feline quality I find so fetching...in Keira Knightley, too.
Still...when I see Jolie's tattoos I am distracted.
I don't believe she's a woman who just doesn't care about her beauty...because I think it's obvious she takes care of herself and does things to keep her looks...and you won't ever see her walking around looking like a wreck, unless she's playing that kind of part.
I don't think tattoos are just "accessories" of this time, though.
I think part of the allure they have for the people who get them is about showing even more facets of their personalities...and I often wonder if that has to do with communications skills we may have lost in the past forty years or so.
I know, I know...my thoughts on tattoos and the currently popular removal of all body hair, by both sexes, are not popular...but my thinking isn't so much collected around trends and what they mean and why generations adopt such trends.
I tend to wonder why we want to change and tamper with our natural beauty so much.
Oh, well...enough of that! LOL
QUOTE (altodiva @ Oct 15 2008, 07:10 AM)
Forgive my dimness (no caffeine yet this AM) but this is the second reference I've seen to "Madame." 'Splain, please?
Madame is the lady who authored a book called Elegance , she is known as Genvieve Antoine Dariaux. I do not know what else to say , the book is very old and was sent to me by a very dear fellow POLer and I think Madame is the sort who could easily start interesting debates around here ..... maybe.
QUOTE (mrs veneering @ Oct 15 2008, 07:13 PM)
Madame is the lady who authored a book called Elegance , she is known as Genvieve Antoine Dariaux. I do not know what else to say , the book is very old and was sent to me by a very dear fellow POLer and I think Madame is the sort who could easily start interesting debates around here ..... maybe.
Elegance is on par with teh bible! But it has to be original 1964 version, not recent poorly updated one.
ETA: Would like to make it clear I was not the generous POLer who gifted you; the fans of Madame are numerous.
QUOTE (isabellabird @ Oct 14 2008, 08:57 PM)
The lower back tattoo is quite popular among younger women and really, it's a better spot than most. The skin won't stretch or sag much over time and it can easily be hidden for work or other conservative situations. So despite the popularity of the term tramp stamp, I think it's going a little bit far to infer actual trampiness. The girls are young and just following style, such as it is.
Sounds like you've given this a lot of thought....perhaps a bit too much thought....are you considering one?
QUOTE (isabellabird @ Oct 14 2008, 08:57 PM)
The lower back tattoo is quite popular among younger women and really, it's a better spot than most. The skin won't stretch or sag much over time and it can easily be hidden for work or other conservative situations. So despite the popularity of the term tramp stamp, I think it's going a little bit far to infer actual trampiness. The girls are young and just following style, such as it is.
Sounds like you've given this a lot of thought....perhaps a bit too much thought....are you considering one?
QUOTE (Cathleen56 @ Oct 15 2008, 08:59 PM)
Sounds like you've given this a lot of thought....perhaps a bit too much thought....are you considering one?
I still have to overcome my pierced ears prejudice, remember! First things first. Get back to me in another couple of decades, I might have the newest tramp stamp in my geriatric ward.
All the money in the world cannot buy class!! NOw, you don't see Karen Walker with any tatoos!! HAHAHA!! Sorry. I love her.
I think some people become addicted to tattoos.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Addicted-to-Tatt...&id=1400347
http://ezinearticles.com/?Addicted-to-Tatt...&id=1400347
I like things that are not ephemera and are intense: tattoos, the real thing, are among them. It's great to be able to say I want this on me, always, till the grave. And for that reason I don't like the concept of having a tatoo removed. Therefore very careful choosing should enter the thinking behind having one done.
Tattoos are powerful and can be beautiful if they're "strong" and ....only a few of them (say, a couple only). Too many denote swallow trendiness, boredom, undecisiveness and tattoo addiction. I like some of Angelina's although honestly they seem like too many nowadays.
I believe that the only things worth branding yourself with are either a lover's initial, a child's memento (date of birth, some special symbol or name etc.) or a symbol of an idea you feel VERY stongly about. (for instance, I love the Scotland one of Sean Connery). All the others seem like posing to me...
The ideal of clear skin is a classical ideal of Greeks and Romans: they were the first people to elevate the status of clear, unadorned skin into the plane of the god-like. Their sculptures are just another view of that belief: acres of smooth marble. Although they sometimes used very small tattoos for military purposes identification, they generally did not embrace the tradition.
Indeed the reasoning behind that place for tatoos is not a bad one and Isabella is correct. Sagging is a terrible concern with tatoos, they look pathetic then.
Pierced ears (and piercing in general) on the other hand has a primitive notion of dispeling evil spirits from the body through the holes. Therefore it was seen as pagan and primitive by Christian societies and later abandonded or kept but prettified through decorative means.
It was customary to pierce the ears of little girls from a very small age (I'm talking about 4-5 years old, even younger sometimes) in my part of the world although nowadays they do it themselves as soon as they finish Elementary School, for fashion purposes. They do the multiple piercings on one ear thing too, which personally I find rather repulsive.
They all belong to the Body Modification subject, which is huge, ancient, very rich historically and not to be taken lightly by the Britney Spears brigade and such......Have you watched A man called Horse?
And sometimes it can be scary, abusive and extreme (apotemnophilia? frenectomy?).
Good sense should prevail as with everything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_modification
http://www.bmezine.com/
Tattoos are powerful and can be beautiful if they're "strong" and ....only a few of them (say, a couple only). Too many denote swallow trendiness, boredom, undecisiveness and tattoo addiction. I like some of Angelina's although honestly they seem like too many nowadays.
I believe that the only things worth branding yourself with are either a lover's initial, a child's memento (date of birth, some special symbol or name etc.) or a symbol of an idea you feel VERY stongly about. (for instance, I love the Scotland one of Sean Connery). All the others seem like posing to me...
The ideal of clear skin is a classical ideal of Greeks and Romans: they were the first people to elevate the status of clear, unadorned skin into the plane of the god-like. Their sculptures are just another view of that belief: acres of smooth marble. Although they sometimes used very small tattoos for military purposes identification, they generally did not embrace the tradition.
QUOTE (isabellabird @ Oct 14 2008, 08:57 PM)
The lower back tattoo is quite popular among younger women and really, it's a better spot than most. The skin won't stretch or sag much over time and it can easily be hidden for work or other conservative situations. So despite the popularity of the term tramp stamp, I think it's going a little bit far to infer actual trampiness. The girls are young and just following style, such as it is.
Our dear Madame, writing in 1964, attributed a similar trashiness to pierced ears. Now I'm old-fashioned and in fact, don't have pierced ears. But I would hesitate to say that those with pierced ears are trashy or trampy--I'd be damning practically every adult woman, with the exception of myself. The girls with lower back tattoos are part of a similar movement from trashy to respectable, it seems to me.
Our dear Madame, writing in 1964, attributed a similar trashiness to pierced ears. Now I'm old-fashioned and in fact, don't have pierced ears. But I would hesitate to say that those with pierced ears are trashy or trampy--I'd be damning practically every adult woman, with the exception of myself. The girls with lower back tattoos are part of a similar movement from trashy to respectable, it seems to me.
Indeed the reasoning behind that place for tatoos is not a bad one and Isabella is correct. Sagging is a terrible concern with tatoos, they look pathetic then.
Pierced ears (and piercing in general) on the other hand has a primitive notion of dispeling evil spirits from the body through the holes. Therefore it was seen as pagan and primitive by Christian societies and later abandonded or kept but prettified through decorative means.
It was customary to pierce the ears of little girls from a very small age (I'm talking about 4-5 years old, even younger sometimes) in my part of the world although nowadays they do it themselves as soon as they finish Elementary School, for fashion purposes. They do the multiple piercings on one ear thing too, which personally I find rather repulsive.
They all belong to the Body Modification subject, which is huge, ancient, very rich historically and not to be taken lightly by the Britney Spears brigade and such......Have you watched A man called Horse?
And sometimes it can be scary, abusive and extreme (apotemnophilia? frenectomy?).
Good sense should prevail as with everything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_modification
http://www.bmezine.com/
I've always liked writing tattoos and Angelina's birth coords are IMHO fabulous, meaningful, original and personal. You just can't say the same about a butterfly. I am of the same sentiment as Helg about the need for meaning and this is the reason why I don't have one, lol.
Apparently Australia has one of the highest tattoo rates in the western world and indeed it is very common here among all ages.
Apparently Australia has one of the highest tattoo rates in the western world and indeed it is very common here among all ages.
I like the birth coordinates, but the rest are kind of overkill for me. I liked one woman's very intricate back tattoo of Cicely Mary Barker's flower fairies that stood for her watching over her children, including one who had passed away, I believe. Here are the flower fairies - the artwork on the tattoos was a perfect rendition of the original paintings:
http://www.flowerfairies.com/US_version/home.html
Click on the gallery - they are gorgeous!
http://www.flowerfairies.com/US_version/home.html
Click on the gallery - they are gorgeous!
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