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PerfumeMe
Supposedly, it's official

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/artic...150m-split.html

AbstractionWhiteRose
Always sad, no matter who it's happening to. I feel bad for them.
Rufus T. Firefly
FINALLY!!!!!
mrs veneering
Dang , I wanted those two kids to see it through .... no shocker though.
PerfumeMe
They've been together for ten years, married for eight, which is longer than most non-celebs these days. I feel sorry for the kids. Rent Swept Away and watch the bonus features and you can see the two of them on the set. She was a handful but he wasn't having any of her nonsense. He called her Mrs. Ritchie. I think he is very attractive and quite a catch. He won't be lonely for long. She will probably wind up with wankers like she used to date. That basketball player, her personal trainer and other losers.
amjack
I think they were married a long time for a Hollywood couple. I was rooting for them too. So sad.
glorious1
They're no deeper than a mud puddle.
Woodland
Everything about Madonna is like fingernails dragging down a chalkboard. I find her stomach turning. And read her views on parenting, especially with respect to potty training. She makes Mommie Dearest look warm and cuddly in comparison. He can do much, much better.
Lady jicky
Hey Rufus T - I am with you!

Now he can stop taking the medication!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif
PerfumeMe
Here we go with the leaks and He Said She Said a la the McCartney divorce:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/artic...nd-cruelty.html

VelvetSky
I love her.
mrs veneering
QUOTE (VelvetSky @ Oct 17 2008, 09:07 PM) *
I love her.


OH ohmy.gif and I love him , do you think this divorce is going to rip us apart?
CHARDKAY
QUOTE (glorious1 @ Oct 15 2008, 08:47 PM) *
They're no deeper than a mud puddle.



I totally agree Glo, I used to like her, but she has worn my patience thin. Her brother, Christoper, wrote quite a revealing book on her which I recently read. I guess I was surprised about how heartless and self-absorbed she really is. It was also said that her brother was 'kind' to her in the book, I would love to read his real/harsh view! She is extremely 'tight' with her money, even making her brother pay for his own flight to attend her wedding in Scotland. She sounded quite emotionally vacant in the book and ambitious beyond belief. It is will be interesting to see how much Guy receives in a settlement!
Karin
I think anyone who becomes famous has to be single minded in its pursuit. She 'reinvented' herself more than once, even her bod, not always for the better. If you look at what she looks like today compared to when she was in Desperately Seeking Susan.
scentual
She's hideous looking. Too much exercise. Hey, I am for exercising but when you start to look bad with veins sticking out and thin and gaunt looking, she practically has no fat, that is good for men who are into bodybuilding, then you have to cut back in exercising and adjust.

When she started in the business, she was a beautiful woman with a good amount of body fat. It made her looked sexy. Now, she's butchy and mean looking. Yikes.
Rufus T. Firefly
QUOTE (Karin @ Oct 18 2008, 04:49 AM) *
I think anyone who becomes famous has to be single minded in its pursuit. She 'reinvented' herself more than once, even her bod, not always for the better. If you look at what she looks like today compared to when she was in Desperately Seeking Susan.

Hmm.... I have a love/hate relationship with Madonna. I really do like her in respect that she makes herself viable as the times go on, sort of like the way Barbra Streisand did when she was young on the way through to the mid 90's and then stopped musics/movies to do other things things like her "beloved politics", which personally bug me. But she has the right to go in whatever route if she chooses to.

Madonna was very beautiful, sexy and "real looking" at one point in her life from her early days as the sexy tart through to her Blonde Ambition era. Now she she has become sort of a cariacature of herself, all mean, tight and lean. Which I agree isn't such a bad thing unless you're a male bodybuilder at the age of 25. On a gal of her age, 50 years old, it does make her look rather "scary" looking. Sort of her inside projecting to the outside her own true inner self. I know years ago she said that no one will know "her own true inner self"... but after years in the media and her choices of men and the one she's divorcing now, which I will say was a definite step up for her (Guy Ritchie is a very good looking man and wealthy on his own part, I thought. He is a true blue blood, right?), that she'd allow herself to be made available to whomever she was with. As always, it's all about her and it will always be. After having read the Maria Riva book on her mother, Marlene (book of the same name), that Madonna will end up just as the great Dietrich did. As she went on into her later years, she was still holding onto her youth, bitter, then ended up a recluse living in a small apartment somewhere refusing to have her photo taken by anyone because at the time, she was one of the most photographed women on the earth back at the time. Madonna was barely becoming the superstar she did become. Marlene was a real piece of work and not in a good way. I'm sure Madonna is no better. She's a woman that did what she did to get to the top at any price and anyone trying to take any of that away from her is like trying to invalidate what sort of human being she believes she is to the world. A part of me does feel sorry for this sort of individual but then a part of me does not at all. Your life is what you make of it, plain and simple. I'm sure she made it very hard for her soon to be ex to be an equal partner in their relationship. I'm not saying that Guy was a saint. I have no idea about the gentleman what kind of person he is. He could've been a scoundrel but I also think that she has more culpability for their collapse of their marriage than anybody else. She's famous, demanding, and it's all about HER and nobody else. She's a force to be reckoned with. I can't see her being happy with anyone else for the rest of her life again. If she does end up with anyone, it will be just another short stint till it's her time for "grand exit" in life.

That's how I see her from my standpoint.

She is what she is and nothing is going to change that. Not like being what she is, is such a bad thing. There are many very powerful men in this world and they are no different and will end up the same way as she will. It's life. No one was going to say it was going to be fair. It is what it is.

I still have a lot of respect for her, I do appreciate her. And at times, I get sick of her but I always come back to her with her work that I can see what's really truly worthy and what is just "junk".

I wonder if she plans to live her days out in England still? I bet the Brits would love to see her go bye-bye just as we Americans would love to see Victoria Beckham (not a woman on the same plane as Madonna) go bye-bye back to home again.

My soapbox is over. Thanks for reading
CHARDKAY
According to her brother, Christoper, Guy tries to be a real 'mans man' and is extremelly homophobic. Christopher seemingly questioned Guy's real self in his book and made teasing remarks about Guy's true sexuality. He hated him, that's for sure. However, Guy made it extemely uncomfortable for Christopher and was very rude to him.
VelvetSky
QUOTE (mrs veneering @ Oct 17 2008, 09:21 PM) *
OH ohmy.gif and I love him , do you think this divorce is going to rip us apart?



Nevah dahling, we're inseparable! wink.gif I love him too, such a cute guy. Wish they could have made it work, but c'est la vie.
rebecca1964
QUOTE (Rufus T. Firefly @ Oct 18 2008, 11:27 AM) *
I wonder if she plans to live her days out in England still?



I just read that online that she is over her fascination with all things British and wants to take all the children to NYC to live.
Rufus T. Firefly
QUOTE (rebecca1964 @ Oct 18 2008, 11:36 AM) *
I just read that online that she is over her fascination with all things British and wants to take all the children to NYC to live.

As always with Madge, it was just a phase...

Rufus T. Firefly
QUOTE (CHARDKAY @ Oct 18 2008, 10:19 AM) *
According to her brother, Christoper, Guy tries to be a real 'mans man' and is extremelly homophobic. Christopher seemingly questioned Guy's real self in his book and made teasing remarks about Guy's true sexuality. He hated him, that's for sure. However, Guy made it extemely uncomfortable for Christopher and was very rude to him.

The more a man tries to portray they are man or in this case, a man's man, the more I think there's something more deeper rooted issues that one is not willing to explore at all.

"True Closet cases come from somewhere? Don't they?"

rebecca1964
QUOTE (Rufus T. Firefly @ Oct 18 2008, 02:41 PM) *
As always with Madge, it was just a phase...



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Karin
I think part of the problem is that the movie(s) they made during their time together were not successful. I think if they had been; if she had been his muse/he had been hers, so she became the movie star she expected she would be, they might still be together.
Rufus T. Firefly
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/report-madonna-g...lement/14346?nc

I guess he got what he wanted and she did to.

If she keeps the kids, so be it. I see her being a better mother than him.

Damn, I forgot how really goodlooking he was till I seen all these pics of his recently.

"Too bad he is such a homophobe.....grrrrrrr..." LOL!!!
Reiha
From what I've read of her and her habits and self-absorption...she is some piece of work. Surprised the marriage lasted this long.

I have a great deal of respect for her for her success and dedication, but she is undeniably not right in the head.
mrs veneering

A great article on Madge , Guy , thier marriage and why and how regular folk relate .....


http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_an...icle4967535.ece
Rufus T. Firefly
QUOTE (Reiha @ Oct 18 2008, 09:38 PM) *
From what I've read of her and her habits and self-absorption...she is some piece of work. Surprised the marriage lasted this long.

I have a great deal of respect for her for her success and dedication, but she is undeniably not right in the head.

I agree with what you wrote. I'm sure she is the modern day Mommie Dearest.
scentual
Here is an article on Madonna and Guy. He put her down calling her granny and how much of a control freak she is, with what kind of food, to the $1000's of dollars she spends on cream so she can look young. When she hit 50, she became obsessed to stay and look young, working out 4 hours a day - that is obsessive. Check out her photo - scary. People find her physique great and splendid, I say it is downright scary. Grow up Madonna, as her song goes: act your age, not your shoe size.





Guy: You look like a granny
Rufus T. Firefly
QUOTE (scentual @ Oct 19 2008, 08:27 AM) *
Here is an article on Madonna and Guy. He put her down calling her granny and how much of a control freak she is, with what kind of food, to the $1000's of dollars she spends on cream so she can look young. When she hit 50, she became obsessed to stay and look young, working out 4 hours a day - that is obsessive. Check out her photo - scary. People find her physique great and splendid, I say it is downright scary. Grow up Madonna, as her song goes: act your age, not your shoe size.





Guy: You look like a granny

She looks freaky.... "Madge grab a sandwich and a hoagie and a gallon of full leaded Hagen Daaz"


Karin
Is it possible to look like that without hormones?

I dunno. I don't find it attractive.
altodiva
Madonna has always struck me as the grasping, desperate-to-be-famous-and-noticed-at-all-costs type. I'm sure Guy Ritchie has his faults as well. But no matter what type of people they are, it's sad to hear of a marriage ending, particularly when there are young children involved.
lmatchgrl
OMG that picture is shocking. What's she done to herself?...I can't look at it again without flinching a second time.
CHARDKAY
QUOTE (Rufus T. Firefly @ Oct 19 2008, 11:30 AM) *
She looks freaky.... "Madge grab a sandwich and a hoagie and a gallon of full leaded Hagen Daaz"



And wash it all down with a pint at the pub!!!
Sofiadurango
Read this week's New Yorker review (Anthony Lane) of her new movie and Ritchie's 'RocknRolla'

I guess they were both making their movies simultaneously (and it was her directorial debut) I forget
what her's is called --- it's not a memorable name. He savaged her movie --- and said considering
all her millions the movie looks like she spent $546.53 (or some lowly number) cents on production and
actor's salaries. I think they're all amateurs (? and from Lane's review they sound like they couldn't
act their way out of paper bags.)

He gave Ritchie's movie a favorable review.
Twitchly
QUOTE (mrs veneering @ Oct 19 2008, 09:00 AM) *
A great article on Madge , Guy , thier marriage and why and how regular folk relate .....

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_an...icle4967535.ece


You know I love you, Mrs. V. You are da bomb.

But that article was a fawning, sychopantic piece of tripe. Not to sugarcoat it or anything. But that subtitle alone -- "Madonna liberated women and she is still showing them the way" -- made want to hurl.

OK, I just looked through it again (see? I told you I loved you), and I can see other, better, more interesting parts, like the theories about their marriage and why it failed. I just have to plug my nose and skip over the "Madonna as Messiah" parts.


mrs veneering
QUOTE (Twitchly @ Oct 19 2008, 09:10 PM) *
You know I love you, Mrs. V. You are da bomb.

But that article was a fawning, sychopantic piece of tripe. Not to sugarcoat it or anything. But that subtitle alone -- "Madonna liberated women and she is still showing them the way" -- made want to hurl.

OK, I just looked through it again (see? I told you I loved you), and I can see other, better, more interesting parts, like the theories about their marriage and why it failed. I just have to plug my nose and skip over the "Madonna as Messiah" parts.



Sorry Twitch I should have qualified that the title made me gag , at first , then I read the article and thought perhaps the author of the piece might be taking the mick ...... just some references and parallels he makes to us( the unwashed masses) and them ( the beeootiful peoples of teh celebritay). I am glad you do love me still though...

right now I am not doing to well , another POLer just gave me a private ribbing for reading the Torygraph , so not true to form at all
Catie Ribbons
That photograph alarms me.

I was a Madonna fan in the 80s and early 90s. I lost interest when she got all 'earth mama hippie' and I couldn't relate to or tap my toes to any of her music anymore.
At one time I admired her for being a strong, determined woman. Now...I just see her as...
Well, I guess I don't admire her now. I feel a bit of pity for her.
I'm feeling it big-time for her soon-to-be-ex, too.
Lady jicky
With christmas on its way - make sure you give your favourite enemy/ Mother in Law etc " Swept Away" as a thoughtful DVD Chrissie Pressie. biggrin.gif
VelvetSky
I love her.
mrs veneering
QUOTE (Lady jicky @ Oct 20 2008, 12:51 AM) *
With christmas on its way - make sure you give your favourite enemy/ Mother in Law etc " Swept Away" as a thoughtful DVD Chrissie Pressie. biggrin.gif


LJ , I am shocked , I mean SHOCKED to my very core!

I never thought I would ever see such pure undiluted evil in one of your posts.
Karin
I got around to reading the article, and it was interesting to me, whether it was accurate or not, projected or not. There does seem to be some universal truths in it for our time frame.

But there is a big, big difference in divorcing (being able to divorce) if one has mega-bucks vs. we lesser mortals who might have to choose whether we could eat or not and how our kids would fare overall one way or the other.
Lady jicky
Mrs V - there is one in the mail winging its way to you along with her other classic , "Evita" with that " Wheres Wally?" Antonio Bendover who popped around a corner here and there during the movie singing! wink.gif biggrin.gif
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